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There are several different deposit methods for USA players, Canadian players, and International players. 900Pay, Nexum, PayPal, Pay Pal, eCheck deposits, webMoney, PayTru, YouTeller, OnDemand Funds, etc. Which deposit method you use is totally up to you - I personally Poker Stars.de use PrePraid ATM cards, NetPay, ACH, 1Pay & Central Coin a fair amount. This website lists the top online poker room reviews so if your looking for an Internet poker room our room reviews are always top notch! We list online poker room deposit bonus codes Poker Games Guide and poker room reviews so check back here regularily! | Online Poker Site choices have seen an enormous growth in the last couple of years and there are now literally hundreds of them to play at. But how do you select a good poker site? I was excited to see they've added Epassport as a deposit option and after seeing they are offering a 10% instant deposit for epassport customers, I decided to go for it. After a half hour went by and my funds had still not been added, showing as a "pending" deposit, I contacted live help to see how long before it's approved. I was shocked to be told 48 hours. 48 hours for my deposit by Epassport to be approved seems pretty ridiculous. They should state this somewhere on the site but alas, they don't. There was a tournament that I was really looking forward to playing too, oh well. Just a warning. have no clue what happened; I'm just happy that I seperate my roll between sites. Yesterday, I put in a session. At the end, my balance was a little over $6500. I was just going to start another session when I noticed my balance was $4700. This doesn't make sense to me. Why would a hacker not take all my money. My password was still the same and my email was fine. I'm just baffled. None of this adds up. I just sent a letter to FT and am waiting a response. Does FT ever take money from player accounts? This just doesn't seem like the work of a hacker, but I have no other explanation. The hacker must be a true moron. Sorry if this has been discussed but I can't find it with search. I know these MFC errors and crashes are very common. It has been blamed on bad RAM and all kinds of things. I have it happen within a few minutes pretty routinely on both my computers. They are Dell and good units. I really want to play there but it is unbearable. Anyone have the fix for this? Post Extras: For those of you (and I know there are many) that utilize the transfer method at Stars in order to pay debts/transfer money with you buddies, BEWARE. This could happen to you. I know 2+2ers are sometimes quite skeptical, so I'll provide a bit of detail..... Several months ago, when two people owed me money, we agreed that they would pay me in Stars money. I didn't have a Stars account yet, and had been staying away from Poker since Party pulled out. I figured this to be a good time to get back in, and a good way to get my money. So I opened an account, and had approx 6K transferred to me at Stars. That's how I funded my account. Fully aware that Stars is not a clearinghouse, and with the intention to get back into poker, I left the money in Stars, and I played a whole bunch of poker. Limit, no limit. Didn't record exactly how much, but played a lot, and I even won a bit. Towards the end of March, I wanted to withdraw 5K (balance was then 6800ish), and so I made the request. Then, Pokerstars wrote me an email requesting an explanation of why I funded my account by receiving money from other players. So, I wrote back, explaining as I did above the circumstances. Then they write back and say that I cannot withdraw my money. I offered to pay any banking expenses associated with the withdraw, and asked what I could do in order to get MY MONEY. They simply refuse to let me withdraw, on the basis that the player to player money transfer is only for the transfer of money that IS THE RESULT of play at their tables. (then why the f*** did they let me initially fund my account in such a manner, when such a transfer necessarily could not have been the result of play at their tables -- since the account was just opened?!?!) I've been back and forth with them, asked them what I can do in order to have access to my money, and they tell me I can send it back to my friends (no longer an option for me) or use it at their tables (in other words, lose it at their tables). They simply will not budge or tell me what I can do to have access to MY MONEY. Anyone that thinks they can help, please PM me. And for anyone that receives transfers from anything that is not literally a "result of activity on [Stars] tables," -- BEWARE. You're money may not be able to be withdrawn. I guess the thing I really find unconscionable here is how Stars permitted me to open an account and fund it with player transfers, and then later takes the position that any transfer not made "as a result of activity at [Stars] tables" cannot be withdrawn. In that event, no one should ever be able to initially fund his or her account with player transfers, as they necessarily could not have made the transfer as a result of table activity! In addition, simply as a matter of good faith and customer service, they should at least offer me some resolution (pay banking fees, more play at the tables, etc.) whereby I can make the withdraw, somehow, someday, of MY MONEY. i had never had any problems with bodog till recently. I have played there a lot over last year or 2 with out the software crashing. Lately i have had 2 crashes in the last week though been annoying. However ive been able to get the software loaded up with out missing a hand. Dunno what is causing it. But ill give a free bump but doubt there will be help for this topic. Post Extras: Has anyone used the Cash Transfer option on Full Tilt? It's basically WU transfer. I am wondering how much the fee is if I want to transfer $500 to Full Tilt. Thanks My bodog client crashes about once an hour. I've noticed that the crashes seem to be loosely correlated with trying to reload your stack up to full (i constantly do this). If you try and do it at the wrong time, it will crash. I've noticed the crashes happening sometime between the end of one hand and the dealing of the next hand. If you try to reload then it seems like that's when it crashes most frequently for me. KoW In mid March I deposited 2 checks from PokerStars. I believe they said WellsFargo on them. The check funds were then available and used by me. Yesterday (almost a month later) - I notice that my available bank balance is hundreds less then the balance. I call the bank and after waiting on hold a while the lady tells me that the funds are being reversed and/or on hold until June 10th because the company that issued them is being investigated for fraud related to gambling. I'm not sure what is going on here. Is there anything I can do? poker is now sports in Russia (just after Putin made gambling about illegal in Russia). I just read that they are not going to do any similar exception in the USA. Too bad. Things in the EU have been on on the edge too during the last two or so years (in Finland too the idea was to make online Poker more or less illegal but it was tried by the state monopoly owners and the ministers who get money from them; their try was based on totally untrue facts, just to get money into their own pockets) but in many countries it has now been getting clear and the way it's going to be in the EU now most likely is based on no state monopoly (some exceptions have been a sort of allowed but they may not last) and licenses the gambling industry must pay and compete of to get to the markets of any country. Though many EU countries are still totally open, some a sort of still closed - one can get around them in any country here, just that it wouldn't be all legal to pay poker gambling taxes nor play professionally at all (if at any in some cases) sites. Russia at the moment seems good, the EU seems good though with limitations, and there's increasing action and interest in Asia, China, Australia. Africa is on its way of getting more open. There will be limitations in the forms of licenses but it will be legal. If all goes along these lines, as they likely are going to, the USA will have a harder time to hold its total ban for very long, and it would look stupid when it comes to poker, also considering all the poker action in the USA. It's already officially argued in Finland that it would be up to impossible to do it in Finland, because it's a part of the EU for one reason, so it shouldn't be even tried, it just would go "underground," meaning people would still play online, legal on not legal. Italy tried to make it illegal the last year but had to make it legal this year, and Spain followed, and Sweden is thinking about the same in the form of licenses (at the moment they have their own monopoly poker site and of course poker is totally legal in Sweden, with a 30% tax of winnings from the non-EU sites and no tax from the EU sites as it's in the EU as long as one is not a professional in case it's generally income tax in the EU, or at least in Finland), and things are happening in Germany too where it has been on the line of dropping either way for a longer time now. France is one of the more banning EU countries when it comes to poker though one can still play there but it may not be legal though not sure. I am a little bit shorthanded here as far as info goes. I'm sorry about that. Any help is GREATLY appreciated, as always. I put $100 onto bodog on March 19 and, by playing the $10 max NL tables (.05 and .10 blinds), 3-tabling I have run that up to $650. I have just now moved to the $25 max NL game (.10 and .25 blinds) and I am having similar success. I have PokerTracker, unfortunately, it's not on this computer, and the computer that it IS on was damaged, so I don't think I can get the registration information out of it. (If anyone can help me with that, i'd love to get it onto this computer...might just have to poney up the $50 again huh?) Long story short, I don't have exact stats. On the bright side, Bodog does keep SOME stats, so here they are. Keep in mind, these are FAR more general than PT stats: 8475 hands (sort of low, I didnt 3-table right away because I only started w/ 10 buy-ins) 13% hands won 58% showdowns won (another surprisingly low stat to me. I bluff a little too much apparently) 31% flops seen (could explain the low showdown. I play a lot of hands in the style of a Negreanu and try to outplay opponents after the flop) 34% win if flop seen (speaks to my aggression level, high I think) OK. That's it for the stats...etc. Here are my main questions: I plan on 3-tabling (it's really all I have the equipment for, plus I'm relatively new to multi-tabling cash games) the $25 NL game until I build to $1250 and then moving to $50 NL game. That is the general 25 Buy-In Bankroll Mgmt guideline that I've read about. How many hands (or hours?) should I plan on playing per day, week, month etc? Assume I have the free time, and I am comfortable for very long sessions. My play drops (as everyone's does) at a certain point, but I would consider my threshold about 5-6 hours at a time. My goal is to make this an "almost-full-time" venture, even on past the summer. I'd like to average at least $500-1000 a week this summer, but I don' want to limit myself unnecessarily. Assuming I continue my success rate, should I keep moving levels til I find a ceiling? Or should I stick w/ $50, 100, or 200 NL games? I've read a few posts about people being bored, so here is a lot to chew on if you are feeing particularly bored or generous. Anything helps, sorry for the length...please don't blast me for being selfish. If you don't want to help or you're pissed that you read a low-content post, PM me the mean stuff. THANKS A TON! In the USA, to me it seems if one is a professional there one could pick an another state there, it being less illegal in other states, then there's a way to use bank accounts from other countries around, or move to Australia (not all that legal but one should be able to play there legally, as long as one gets there - they have a point system and getting there can be difficult), then there's the UK (no gambling taxes even from professionals until that has changed), then Canada is near, and there are other possibilities. And poker being so legal in all so many other countries, there rates to be always ways for the US players to play poker online, and some sites are open for US players and more or less offer ways to get money in and out. The lights are out there, though at the moment things have gone more or less as dark as they can in the USA as they are banning even Canada at many online wallets, and they are not going to make an exceptions when it comes to poker. But that's all just a sort of a black wave, having no reality to it, but it's a very big wave and will take time and counter forces to get things right again, but as it seems now it's just a matter of time when either the reality hits or it will be seen as an act against human rights to ban online poker. ummm not sure exactly what your question is exactly. First part, online poker will always exist in most countries, but some countries are getting seriously looked over in an online ban. The UK appears to be safe for quite a while. To answer the thread topic, it depends how you define "a living". I remember when i was playing NL50, i made a little over 100 a day. Thats certainly enough to pay rent, and pay the bills.... but i don't know if thats considered a living. To be able to pay a mortgage and bills and feed a family WHILE saving for investments would probably be considered a living in my opinion. I think that anybody who relies heavily on poker for their income should be playing at LEAST NL100. If someone said they were a pro NL100 player, i'd roll my eyes. NL 200 i'd start to respect, and NL 400 is where the you start to see a genuine amount of pros. NL 600 is where you'll start to see guys that make more in a month than you will in a year, NL 1000 is where the bubble high rollers play, and anything higher is gravy. I've heard that after $5k they freeze you and ask for more documents, and with their [censored] customer support the whole process can take months. Is it when your account balance exceeds $5,000 or when the sum of your transaction amounts exceeds $5,000? I never keep much money in the Epass account, but am doing a $600 transfer from FullTilt about once every week. If however, you define a living as just paying rent and bills, hell you can make a living at NL 10. The games are so terrible at that level that a friend i was coaching consistently makes around 4-5 buyins a day, and he's not very good. Multitabling a few hours a day, its pretty easy to pay rent/bills at any limit except super micro. I deposited there about 2 weeks ago. Had heard great things up to this point. Love the play at the low tables, but jesus christ the last few days have been absolute hell. Every time i try to get on the tables take forever to load, and the game freezes for litterally 1-2 mins after every single pot. Its unplayabled ATM. Furthermore, i hear more and more reports (IE just was told the same thing by 3 people in the SNG im trying to finish at 2min/hand) that cashouts have been being reversed (2 guys said they requested a cashout in the last few weeks and had it put back into their accounts after a week or so with no notice, or just taking an ungodly amount of time. Hey, I've heard that there are some affiliates that offer free WSOP main event freerolls. I'm sure there must be a raked hand requirement but I imagine it will be cheaper than player $200 satellites on PS. What are peoples experiences at Cake Poker? I want to continue playing here because i like it alot but if these server problems and potential cashout problems persists its not gonna work. Sorry if their is a cake poker thread or something, i searched and found nothing For implieds odds its generally best to calculate roughly what you need to extract by way of a future bet to make a call on this street a break even play. You then only call if you are sure you can get at least that amount on average <<< IMPORTANT! Lets assume for arguments sake this was the turn and your opponent had a $100 stack of which you had calculated you need $25. You hit your hand and either bet first at the pot or are checked to. What now? How much should you bet? You know you need $25...should you bet that or just over? Well, I'm going to go out on a limb here and what am about to say is my own thinking. I've never statistically verified this or ran it past other sound players... I believe you are now at a seperate betting decision. You should not just bet $25-35 as this is close to break even but secures you a profit. You should independantly assess what you can sell your hand for here and bet accordingly. If you determine you'll only get $20 then your previous decision was incorrect!! However, you should still bet that $20 as two wrongs don't make a right! Similarly if you are looking and thinking this guy will pay off a $40 bet pretty much 100% of the time but would also pay off a $100 all in 50% of the time then go ahead and slide. Granted you fail to secure your implied bet here 50% of the time but the other 50% you make $100, so a net gain of $50 every time you make this decision. If you follow my logic there its perfectly possible to make an implied odds decision on the turn, hit your card on the river, overbet and then beat yourself up when he doesn't call because you must have made an incorrect decision on the street before. This is not neccessarily the case and to do this is to fall into the 'results' orientated trap. You get paid for decisions in poker not hand outcomes. Therefore even if you are searching for an implied bet, as my scenario above shows, treat the river betting decision independant from all that has gone before. That's my thinking I realise you know most of these concepts inside out Z but I elaborated a little for the benefit of others and also just to straighten out my own thinking in print. Finally, anyone that arrives at the river and doesn't have a clue how much they can sell their made hand for has made an incorrect play on the turn. The reason for this is that you clearly don't have a strong feel for your opponent and have not, at the turn been very clear about the strength of his hand. you're not missing anything. it just runs in streaks. there's a lot of luck involved in whether or not you get paid on your big hands in nl. in fact, there's really a lot more of a luck factor involved in getting paid than there is in getting good cards and hitting hands. the important thing is that you give yourself a chance to get paid. as long as you keep giving yourself chances, eventually your screen will light up like a slot machine. keep in mind though, that your play in small pots is the steady factor that's most important to your success. any monkey can, and will, move chips in with a made hand, but most don't understand when to take it slow, and when to bluff. the nice thing about the system i outlined above, is that although its really geared mostly towards donks, its also very effective against observant intermediates that haven't quite reached that next step. when one of these players sees you soft playing a maginal catch after the flop, they're usually thinking "gee, if this guy didn't like that, i guess when he bets, he must have really have something". that's not really neccessarily the case though. the important thing to keep track of is how well you are doing in hands where you don't get a great flop. 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